Nominations are Open

[pumpkinkingmod]

Nominations are now open.

 

You get four fandom slots, eight “character” slots, and four canon helpers.

 

 

Fandoms

This should be rather self-explanatory.  Any fandom is eligible.  This includes RPF, original works, and crossovers.  Fandoms based on fan based works will be allowed in on a case by case basis.  For this section you should try and go for the more umbrella level of the fandom such as MCU, DCAU, or Dangan Ronpa – All Media Types.  Fandoms will be further subdivided using Canon Helpers, which is covered in a later section of this guide.

 

Characters

You may nominate any female character or group of female characters under the character field.  If a character’s status as female is uncertain then comment.  I will normally accept it if you make a case where I can reasonably see why you interpret this character as female.  I will also accept non-specific original female characters.  So original mad scientist is fine, Dr. Mean your OC is not.  If a character is confirmed to exist but doesn’t have a canonical gender, for example a wizard that is mentioned but never showed up, they can be nominated.

 

You may also nominate groups.  This should be in the form of Group: Alice & Sally.  Groups do not imply a specific relationship.  They just mean that the person creating for that tag has to include all the characters.  You may add as many characters as you want to the tag.  All characters in the group must be eligible for that fandom on their own.  Groups must be a clearly defined list of characters.  Don’t nominate Group: Female Avengers, instead nominate Group: Natasha Romanoff & Wanda Maximoff.  Groups should only be nominated in character slots.  Do not put them in relationships.

 

RPF nominations should not include anybody under the age of 18.  I will not accept non-famous family and friends.  Any RPF nominations can be removed at the request of that individual.  I reserve the rights to reject any RPF on reasons of bad taste. 

 

Canon Helpers

Canon helpers should be nominated under the relationship field.  The format is CH: Guardians of the Galaxy, CH: Madoka Magica anime series, or CH: Final Fantasy X.  Canon helpers will be used to make sure that you only match on parts of a fandom that you are familiar with.  These will be used for things such as adaptations versus original or  what part of a large fandom do you want.  In order for someone to match to you both of you must be offering and requesting at least one canon helper in common in addition to the normal fandom, character, and medium requirements.  Only canon helpers go in relationships, nothing else.

 

The advantages of this system is that fewer groups will have to go under crossovers.  It allows both the people that want their fandoms grouped together and the ones that want them to be split apart to be accommodated.  So if you are say only interested in the Agents of SHIELD part of the MCU then you’d select MCU as your fandom, the relevant characters/groups, and then CH: Agents of SHIELD.  Only somebody interested in writing/arting that part of the MCU would be matched to you.  While someone else that wants everybody and everything could also be accommodated. 

 

If I choose to fold your fandom under an umbrella fandom I will add the canon helper myself.  If you require more canon helpers than what I’ve allowed then comment and I will manually add them in.

 

 

 

 

 

If you feel your fandom needs to be split up further than what canon helpers would allow then contact me and explain why.

Comments

Tolkien Discussion

[pumpkinkingmod]

Reply to this for discussing how to handle Tolkien.

Tolkien is one of those fandoms that I'm not sure if it is too complicated for the canon helpers. I don't want to separate every single little thing out, but I'm also unsure how much to group things together and then use canon helpers for specificity.

I'd like suggestions on how to subdivide you guys and what canon helpers would go with each. Would putting The Hobbit & Lord of the Rings (with canon helpers specifying movie and book) together and then putting everything else under The Silmarillion and other histories of Middle-Earth - J. R. R. Tolkien work?

Re: Tolkien Discussion

[elleth]

Yes, please! There are so many possible characters if everything is kept together that nominations/requests could be quite restrictive.

Silm and other histories is a good category since it is fairly separate from Hobbit and LotR. I could see CHs for Children of Húrin and the Akallabêth, but those might not even strictly be necessary, since CoH can be subsumed in "other histories" and is contained in the Silm in a less detailed version, and the Akallabêth (the part of the story dealing with Númenor and its fall) is self-contained by definition.

For LotR and the Hobbit, there should definitely be options to separate out books and movies, since those are the big dividing lines, so CH: LotR (book), LotR (movies) (or CH: LotR Jackson Movies if anyone wants to make sure they end up with Bakshi movie fic, but I doubt that's going to be a problem), CH: Hobbit (book) and CH: Hobbit (movies) would be good to have.

Re: Tolkien Discussion

[doranwen]

I would like to nominate a character from Born of Hope (2009) - the fan film prequel to LOTR that was done amazingly well (71 min, high production values). Now, some characters in that film are unique to the film alone and would not appear in LOTR at all, but some (such as Gilraen) would be shared. Should I nominate this as a separate fandom from LOTR? I could go either way when it comes to nominating/requesting groups (nominating/requesting only one character in the film, or nominating/requesting them in a group with other characters that are in LOTR only). It's not an *official* prequel but the story is almost completely canonical with the book (two minor details only) and would fit perfectly with the films. However, there are possibly fans of LOTR who may not even be aware that the film exists...

Re: Tolkien Discussion

[zdenka]

I would like to nominate some characters for The Lord of the Rings. How should I do that under the new system?

Marvel Comics Discussion

[pumpkinkingmod]

Reply to this for discussing how to handle Marvel Comics.

I'm not combining you guys with MCU. Will the canon helpers be enough for establishing particular universes/series or do you require further subdivision?

DC Comics Discussion

[pumpkinkingmod]

Reply to this for discussing how to handle DC Comics.

Will the canon helpers be enough for establishing particular universes/series or do you require further subdivision?

Re: DC Comics Discussion

[miramira]

I think the DC Animated Universe (e.g. Batman: TAS, Justice League, Young Justice) and CW TV shows (e.g. Arrow, Supergirl, Flash) might need to be their own umbrellas.

[anaraine]

Just checking - is Star Wars being lumped wholesale into AMT, or are we splitting between "canon"/"legends"/(video games), or some other OT/PT/ST/TCW/Comics configuration?

[pumpkinkingmod]

I don't want to do wholesale AMT just because there is so much of it. What split would make the most sense to you as a fan? My thought was to either do it by era or do the movies and series together and the rest would by subseries (so like the KotOR games would be lumped together, the Legends books would be together, etc).

I am currently sitting on a bunch of Star Wars noms until I decide how to handle it?

[(Anonymous)]

I've nominated CH: Guardians of the Galaxy under the wrong slot and it was approved. I've denominated it under relationships now.

[(Anonymous)]

*renominated

[pumpkinkingmod]

It's fixed now.

[doranwen]

Do we need to nominate canon helpers for canons where there is only one version of the canon? (For instance, a book series with no film/TV adaptations, an original TV show...) If so, how do we format it? Just CH: fandom name? I just want to make sure I'm doing this right before I click submit...

[pumpkinkingmod]

Yes, the sign up form is going to require choosing at least one canon helper. I can manually add them in, but it saves time for me if they are nominated. CH: fandom name is fine.

Star Trek

[shopfront]

Umbrella fandom? I've nominated assuming yes given how many kinds of Trek there are, but it won't let me include Jadzia Dax or Tora Ziyal as they've already been nominated (unapproved as far as I can see) by someone else under Star Trek: Deep Space Nine as a non-umbrella fandom.

If you don't decide to umbrella Trek, just let me know and I can edit my nominations accordingly so you don't need to tweak them.

Re: Star Trek

[pumpkinkingmod]

I know the shows very well for Star Trek. I'm currently thinking of putting Next Gen/DS9/Voyager together, Enterprise by itself, the original/animated series together, and then the Kelvin universe as its own thing. Discovery will be determined if it ever actually comes out. Movies and such would be in the era that they fall under. Does those groupings make sense to you?

[dreamiflame]

I nommed Hera under the canonical AO3 tag, with the Greek, but somehow it got changed to Here when she got approved.

[pumpkinkingmod]

The tag changed because I made a typo when changing it away from the AO3 canonical tag. Characters from legends, myth, religion, works on the public domain, and other resources that are often used in modern works have a tendency to wander in their canonical forms. So its usually just easier for me to preemptively change the tag to something that won't wander rather than fix it after the fact. I will fix the tag.

[(Anonymous)]

I have two questions, please bear with me.

Can we nominate 'canon character & original character' groups under non-original canons?

Ovipository tentacle creatures or monsters count as female characters?

[pumpkinkingmod]

Sure. You can do non-specific characters. So Group: Melinda May & Monster is fine, or Group: Melinda May & Ovipository Tentacle Creature is fine, but not Group: Melinda May & Franzilikis who is your specific monster OC. Ovipository tentacle creatures don't exist, and if they do don't tell me, so yeah as long as they are written as female Ovipository tentacle creatures it is fine by me.

[(Anonymous)]

I think either CH: Original or CH: Original Work under Original Work fandom should be deleted. This comment sounds funny.

[pumpkinkingmod]

Got it.

[(Anonymous)]

There's a reason that Killer Frost wasn't accepted yet? Do you need some evidence notes about her?

[pumpkinkingmod]

Because she's a character I was going to ask about in my massive questions post once nominations close. It isn't clear if it is the Earth 2 version of the character or the Earth 1, if it is the Earth 1 version I want to give people in the fandom a chance to voice if they feel she counts as a distinct and separate character from Caitlin Snow.

[(Anonymous)]

There's Kasidy Yates twice under Star Trek.

[gehayi]

I don't see any place to put the canon helper thing. I see eight character slots and four relationship slots. There are no canon helper slots.

[pumpkinkingmod]

"Canon helpers should be nominated under the relationship field."

Because AO3 can not be customized. The relationship field is where the canon helpers go as it says

Girl Genius

[rosewithallherthorns]

Group: Agatha Heterodyne & Lucrezia Mongfish, CH: Agatha H books, and CH: Girl Genius (comics) all belong under Girl Genius in the comics section. The Agatha H books are a canonical tie-in that slightly retcon some of the beginning and add more details to the worldbuilding. The Girl Genius comics are the original canon and currently a webcomic.

[zdenka]

Will it be possible to repeat fandoms when requesting or offering? (I'm thinking if someone wants to request/offer some characters with canon helper 1 and other characters with canon helper 2.)

[(Anonymous)]

+1

I was worried about this as well, like I mentioned on my example under the Star Trek thread (if I want request/offer both AOS and TOS, but I want only TOS!Uhura, it's going to be a problem).

Transformers?

[raininshadows]

Transformers has the odd position of having a lot of characters who share names across continuities. I wouldn't particularly mind a mix-and-match approach - request canon helper Animated, canon helper IDW, and character Arcee, and my writer can pick which version of her they want to write - but it seems like it could be confusing, and other people in the fandom or the mod may want a full split or character labeling (so I'd nominate "Arcee (TFA)" or "Arcee (IDW)" depending on which one I wanted). Advice?

[(Anonymous)]

The Dragon Age canon helpers have some repeats.

CH: Dragon Age II
CH: Dragon Age II (video game)

CH: Dragon Age Inquisition (video game)
CH: Dragon Age: Inquisition (Video Game)

[pumpkinkingmod]

Thank you.

[doranwen]

It occurs to me that I goofed when I nominated one of the crossover tags - I didn't make it clear which fandom the character was from. You can see here under Crossover Fandoms that I nominated "Group: Jane Rizzoli (R&I) & Lindsay Boxer (WMC TV)". It should've been "Group: Jane Rizzoli (R&I TV) & Lindsay Boxer (WMC TV)", since R&I is *also* a series of books - with VERY different canon events, different characterization, etc. (I don't know much about the books so I wouldn't want to match on someone who thought I was requesting fic about book!Jane, for instance, and it didn't appear that canon helpers would be practical for crossovers so the fandoms did need to be clearly specified for each character.) I don't know if that's fixable, but I thought I should ask.

[pumpkinkingmod]

I will fix it when I do my next round of tagset fixes.